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But again, because I'm away we decided you know what we're gonna do we're gonna make the B-side for the prior prior interview with Bridget Eileen Rivera all about the heavy burdens that LGBTQ folks are forced to carry as they try to engage with church life. And so this would normally be scheduled to be an interview. Then episode 128 B came out that was the most recent episode on the feed where Tryphena and I unpacked that conversation and went into greater depth. So the first was our interview with Kevin Sweeney about mystechs, mushrooms, and the power of letting go. You may recall if you're a regular listener, that the B-sides are now available for every new episode going forward, they're going to be on the main feed. And if you're not too bad, so Tryphena and I agreed to do for this episode was to release the B-side for the Bridgette Eileen Rivera interview. Many thanks to you all for giving me permission if you are the first kind of person who gave me permission to take a break. So we are just taking a little break a year of foster care and my wife turning 40 provided the excuse for us to get away. And as you listen to this, if you're listening to it, you know, within a few weeks of it being released, I will be lying on a beach we will be lying on a beach or I suppose, holed up in a forest in Finland. Why a bonus episode because I'm on holiday. Hello friends and welcome back to The Puddcast.

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